I've little faith in her "Quota pilot" flying skills and agree that she was probably an accident waiting to happen, but have you evidence of an intentional midair?
you have evidence that it's not? My wife doesn't like fielding phone calls from Army folks who ask where did I come to acquire said information. That's enough for me.
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Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:35 pm
Kolibri
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That the mid-air was intentional is your theory, so you've the burden of proof. I think that error is more credible than homicidal/suicidal opportunistic malice.
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Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:00 pm
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45+ years in helicopters Military. Civil, Public Service. I had confirmation from Army sources of my opinion and NTSB experience and you have your opinion, Enjoy.
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Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:06 am
MadMuz
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I remember when I joined back in 1981 that you could get denied for failing the psych interview at MEPS, especially if you were headed for flight school. Then you could fail the psych standard at OCS or WOC'd. Next hurdle was the 3 psych standard evals during flight school.
Then later while serving I started noticing we were getting alot and I DO MEAN ALOT of really useless assholes at unit level. I would not let these guys or gals drive a car yet they wanted us to let them fly helicopters?????????????
Awwww, the days of the stupid "stress cards", for those who did not know it was the beginning of the downfall of the military service. These little gems were given to the soldiers (I use that term so loosely) trainees at boot camp and any time they felt the DI's (Drill Sergeants or Drill Instructors) they would present this card to them and they would get a very peaceful time out for 10 minutes to gather themselves and rest. The Di's could NOT seek any type of training correction for use of the card. The only reason I found out about this was a new soldier presented me with one when he was having a bad day during unit training at the confidence course and I was administering corrective training to help him get over a obstacle.....he gave me his stress card. I was momentarily paused. Another junior soldier came over and explained the background to the card and what it was used for.
I did my best impression of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman from Full Metal Jacket....that was a whole lot of fun. I never ever saw that card again.
Anyway that was what I saw as the downfall of a very important standard. Trainees need to be hardened and tough giving someone a way out, an excuse to not train to standard was a really screwed up idea. It surely led the way to the modern day standard to transgender soldiers who can do a standard duty day because the hormones they are on make them emotionally unstable, physically substandard and unable to perform and then 2 years worth of surgeries that keep them on medical leave recovering. When it is all said and done the taxpayers are out over a quarter of a million dollars in money for their transition, they units manning tables short a soldier who could perform their duties for the 4 years they were there and a substandard protection force because of some assholes woke ideas of feminine guys trying to do a job that requires testosterone driven acuity, muscles driven by generations of male genetics and harden exercise, and the willingness to do what needs to be done including active desire to participate in combat without thinking about the adversaries feelings achieving the objective and protecting your men and country. Oh by the way, I did spend alot of time in the desert and we had Marine female interpreters. That is one branch of the service that DID NOT lower the standard for their female soldiers in combat units...my hat is definitely off to them. tough as nails, fast intelligent and smart.....you could depend on them any time and any where.
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Kick all Fags and Transtesticulars to the curb, now! Do not concern yourself with any judges attempt to intervene. If a judge tries to, hold a military tribunal on the judge for interfering. Next remove ALL women from combat roles, no matter how tough they are they are taking the place of a MAN who could do a better job, and even if the very best guy COULDN"T beat the best chick, the men on the team will ALWAYS react to the women in jeopardy to the detriment of the unit as a whole. I have seen it countless times with my own eyes. They belong in the rear with the gear. period.
Next, institute a very strenuous Physical Standards test that must be administered every 6 months for combat deployable units, that not only is an aggregate score of a PT test, but includes shooting scores like a biathlon.
the military needs to be more like the Lord of the Flies and less like My Little Pony! (you Bronies know who you are, HAhahahahahahah)
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Kick all Fags and Transtesticulars to the curb, now! Do not concern yourself with any judges attempt to intervene. If a judge tries to, hold a military tribunal on the judge for interfering. Next remove ALL women from combat roles, no matter how tough they are they are taking the place of a MAN who could do a better job, and even if the very best guy COULDN"T beat the best chick, the men on the team will ALWAYS react to the women in jeopardy to the detriment of the unit as a whole. I have seen it countless times with my own eyes. They belong in the rear with the gear. period.
Next, institute a very strenuous Physical Standards test that must be administered every 6 months for combat deployable units, that not only is an aggregate score of a PT test, but includes shooting scores like a biathlon.
the military needs to be more like the Lord of the Flies and less like My Little Pony! (you Bronies know who you are, HAhahahahahahah)
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Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:23 pm
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Kick all Fags and Transtesticulars to the curb, now! Do not concern yourself with any judges attempt to intervene. If a judge tries to, hold a military tribunal on the judge for interfering. Next remove ALL women from combat roles, no matter how tough they are they are taking the place of a MAN who could do a better job, and even if the very best guy COULDN"T beat the best chick, the men on the team will ALWAYS react to the women in jeopardy to the detriment of the unit as a whole. I have seen it countless times with my own eyes. They belong in the rear with the gear. period.
Next, institute a very strenuous Physical Standards test that must be administered every 6 months for combat deployable units, that not only is an aggregate score of a PT test, but includes shooting scores like a biathlon.
the military needs to be more like the Lord of the Flies and less like My Little Pony! (you Bronies know who you are, HAhahahahahahah)
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